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Majik_Imaje
post Nov 15 2009, 11:36 PM
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I was present @ the census in 1981 - I was an eye witness to how this is accomplished !!

it is nothing short of a joke !! 6 people spent one month - counting with electronic instruments during a one month period. They did not count anywhaes after they left. The migration last a whole lot longer than one month and it is not restricted to just one lead !!

15,000 was the number they quoted in 1982 after careful analysis of (some) of the data during that month. The elders scoffed at that tiny figure.

GREENPEACE (1983) - PROCLAIMED TO THE WORLD - There are only 250 bowhead whales left. STOP ESKIMO'S FROM HUNTING (their food). WHALES.

GREENPEACE (2005) 300,000 WHALES DIE EACH YEAR - from commercial fishing nets and pollution in the ocean !!

I visibly see - each year the whales pass by our area in Point Hope and in Barrow.

Obtaining biased information from the internet is NOT ACCURATE .. Case in Point - Polar bears are dying !! That is the exact opposite of what the truth actually is !!

The DOCUMENTED POPULATION has been growing in record numbers for the past 50 years !!!

Polar Bears do not need sea ice to survive !!! that is total nonsense !!!

I live here. I see first hand how the 'white man' PURPOSELY alters the FACTS of what the actual TRUTH really is !!

I have witnessed time and time again. over a 30 year span - how the white man lies - distorts the actual truth EVERYTIME they can !!

60 MILLION INNOCENT CHILDREN - butchered !! that sad statistic keeps me awake at night .!! what is wrong with our thought process ??

10,000 fine - if you pick up a 'feather' from an EAGLE. If you want to murder a baby - WE WILL GIVE YOU THE MONEY TO DO SO.

The very first law Obama signed into LAW that he is so PROUD OF makes way for the 'MURDER' of 4,000 black babies DAILY !!!

That causes me GREAT PAIN and sleepless nights !!

Why do we use gasoline motors ?? FOR THE EXACT SAME REASON you do !!! it allows us to travel further !! @ 3 times the rate that you have to pay.

I do not tell you how to live in your world - it is pathetic !! There is nothing civil about it !!

WE DO NOT HARM the enviroment or violate the animals we 'receive' from the 'creator of all things' !! We are THANKFUL for the food we receive.!!

Our lifestyle - culture - traditions - demand RESPECT


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post Nov 15 2009, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE (Majik_Imaje @ Nov 15 2009, 11:36 PM) *
I was present @ the census in 1981 - I was an eye witness to how this is accomplished !! it is nothing short of a joke !! 6 people spent one month


It was 2001 and they were there for 3 months.

By the way ... it isn't from 'the internet' ... it is from the Journal of Marine Mammal Science.

Want a hard copy of the study?

Journal: Marine mammal science
ISSN 0824-0469 CODEN MMSCEC

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post Nov 15 2009, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE (Majik_Imaje @ Nov 15 2009, 11:36 PM) *
I have witnessed time and time again. over a 30 year span - how the white man lies - distorts the actual truth EVERYTIME they can !!


Dude ... lose the ignorant bigotry ... ok?

Really ugly stuff.
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post Nov 16 2009, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE (Majik_Imaje @ Nov 15 2009, 11:36 PM) *
Polar Bears do not need sea ice to survive !!! that is total nonsense !!!


Climate Change Impacts
Sea ice is the predominant feature of the arctic seas, and global warming caused by greenhouse gas emisions
is expected to cause a reduction in its thickness and extent. Arctic shelf seas are among the most productive
in the world and large numbers of organisms from all trophic levels can be found along ice edges, leads and
polynyas where the interaction of ice, sunlight and water currents is greatest (Sakshaug et al. 1994).
Reductions in the extent of sea ice will undermine the productivity of the northern oceans. Of concern as the
ice melts is the loss of ice-dependant prey species for predators like the polar bear (Tynan and DeMaster, 1997).
The seasonal cycle of melting ice creates vertical mixing in the ocean column and allows nutrient-rich water
to reach the surface. Colony-building diatoms and blue-green algae flourish on the underside of ice floes. In
the spring, as sunlight returns to the northern high latitudes and the pack ice retreats north, these algae seed
a bloom of phytoplankton in the layer of nutrient-rich brackish water that forms on top of the cold, dense sea
water below. Zooplankton and small crustaceans, such as copepods, amphipods and krill, feed on this bloom.
These in turn, serve as food for fish (particularly arctic cod), seals, seabirds, and other predators. But it is in
the open water of leads and polynyas where productivity is highest and top level predators—like the polar
bear—feast on the abundance of ice-dependent species assembled there (Sakshaug et al. 1994). Due to its
position at the top of the arctic marine food web, the polar bear is an ideal species through which to monitor
the cumulative effects of climate change in the arctic marine ecosystem (Stirling and Derocher 1993).
Indigenous communities along the coast of the northern Bering and Chukchi Seas have noticed substantial
changes in the marine ecosystem since the 1970s. Alaska Natives, for example, have experienced warmer
winters, early spring break-up, and thinner than usual ice (Pungowiyi 2000). This traditional knowledge echoes
the scientific evidence. Throughout the 20th century, the following scientific observations have been made:

• Although not geographically uniform, air temperatures in the Arctic have increased by about 5°C
over the last 100 years (Serreze et al. 2000).
• Since 1972, a 10 per cent decrease in snow-cover extent across the northern hemisphere has been
observed (Brown, 2000).
• Between 1978 and 1996, arctic sea ice extent decreased by approximately 3 per cent per decade
(Parkinson et al. 1999);

Figure 2 illustrates that spring sea ice extent in the Nordic Sea has been
reduced by 33 per cent over the past 135 years (Vinje 2001).

Sea ice is critical to the survival of polar bears. It is the platform from which they hunt because it is there
that their primary prey—ringed and bearded seal—are found. Ringed and bearded seals are in turn dependent
on sea ice as it is there that they rest, give birth and raise their pups. Regional variation in the seasonal distribution
and extent of sea ice has been shown to have significant effects on the survival of seals and consequently
on polar bears (Stirling 1997).

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post Nov 16 2009, 06:20 PM
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Majik, your racist comments are offensive. I’ve noticed your racist comments several times before. I hope not to read more of them.

In my view, this forum is not the appropriate place to discuss the ethics of whale hunting, pro or con, or the other unrelated topics that Majik spewed forth. In any event, Jeremy, I trust that you now realize the futility of trying to have a rational discussion with Majik.

The last few posts bring to mind a rather humorous quote:

“Never try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.”

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post Nov 16 2009, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE
Sea ice is critical to the survival of polar bears.


Please EXPLAIN - how polar bears SURVIVE in Churchill (on land)

Please EXPLAIN - how polar bears SURVIVE IN zoos around the world ??

Never mind. !! I live in the Arctic I see first hand !!

You quote from biased articles that DO NOT PORTRAY the simple truth about our way of life here !!

This (most popular) thread is all about the Inupiat peoples RIGHT to eat their food !!

I am not interested in falsehoods or politcal biased reports.

The white man has a well documented track record - destroying 340,000 people in the name of greed & money

TRYING TO NUKE the Cape Thompson area with no warning for the residents of the area - Spreading nuclear waste and watering it to spread it all over the hunting grounds. 300 ELDERS die suddenly from cancer - due to infected food !!

Come on up here - and see first hand - !! it is the EXACT opposite of what you quote !!


Our sea ice in August / Sept is about 300 miles away from land - Polar Bears land on the beaches here in Barrow all the time from that lengthy swim. YES !! Polar Bears can actually SWIM - for hundreds of miles. When they hit the beaches here, they sleep - no one bothers them - We show the greatest respect fo animals.

In your world NO RESPECT is given to innocent unborn children - They are murdered at an alarming rate !!

It only seems appropriate that YOU should concentrate on your problems in your world and quit trying to make changes in our world !!

I have been here for 30 years time. In the 1980's We were 7 miles out on the ocean ice pack

as that decade moved towards the 1990's we were getting closer and closer to land - ALL during the 1990's we had little or no sea ice to go whaling. We set up our camps on land and hunted from there.

2003 - 2009 We have had the BEST SEA ICE IN DECADES !! 19 MILES OUT on that ice pack is the farthest we have ever been ( in my 30 years) here.

There is no such thing as Global Warming - it is a hoax for GLOBAL GOVERNANCE !! The climate has been (constantly) changing for thousands of years !!

Haven't you noticed yet ? Lying is the new standard norm - Our USUPER PHONEY (POTUS) DOES nothing but lie to the public !!

John chapter 10 - The thief comes only to KILL - steal - & destroy !! THAT IS EXACTLY what is being done to the United States of America !!

THE TRUTH WILL (eventually) BE REVEALED !!









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post Nov 16 2009, 07:50 PM
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C.C.C. = COLORFUL CAKES (CHUCKLE) !! WHALING FESTIVAL !!

These are some very colorful cakes home made for the Festival to honor the successful crews that received & harvested a whale this spring !!













As you can see and easily discern - it is very 'foggy' outside and quite cold for the end of June !! Our summers are getting colder and shorter up here - the exact opposite of what is being reported by the biased main stream media !!


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post Nov 16 2009, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (Majik_Imaje @ Nov 16 2009, 08:17 PM) *
Please EXPLAIN - how polar bears SURVIVE in Churchill (on land)

Please EXPLAIN - how polar bears SURVIVE IN zoos around the world ??



Quite simple Majik. Polar bears over-summer on land. They live on their fat reserves and what small dietary supplements they gather from small mammals and small shrubs and grasses. If you will examine the geography of Churchill, MB., you will notice that is borders on Hudson's Bay, a prime area for hunting by polar bears. When this area freezes over, this is when the polar bears are best able to gather their primary food, seals. Polar bears surviving on land is not even restricted to Churchill, rather, it is evident across the entire Arctic. In addition, polar bears are able to survive in zoos simply because they are constantly fed, not that they require sea ice to survive beyond its use as a hunting platform. If you remove the sea ice, the polar bears cannot feed, and thus must be fed, which is what is occurring in zoos.

Furthermore, to attempt to brush apart peer reviewed studies in the scientific literature which clearly state that numerous Arctic animals are perishing as a result of pollution and overhunting is simply demonstrating your irrationality to understand what it occurring. Scientific literature, that is in no part biased by the government, clearly demonstrates that polar bear populations are declining. There is no if, ands, or buts. However, many Inuit individuals wish for hunt quotas to be reduced, or even eliminated completely. Why? The sole reason I can understand is greed.

You claim that all other individuals are greedy. Rather, if you examine the situation, a polar bear hide goes for thousands of dollars. Why else would the destruction of this animal serve a purpose? Other food sources are even more plentiful, and less dangerous and difficult to kill.

In addition, your claims that from 2003-2009 the sea ice was at its farthest expanse. Rather, I feel that your lying, simple and outright. Scientific literature, satellite photos, and individuals have documented the extreme opposite of what you claim. Further substantiated this is the fact that ships (not submarines) are now able to traverse through what is known as the Northwest passage. This was not possible in the past because of the expanse of multi-year sea ice. Now, it is possible. What does that unequivocally demonstrate? That the sea ice is receding.

Well I enjoy the pictures that you post, your attempt to try and persuade everyone here to follow your beliefs is quite useless. Your claims are clearly unsubstantiated, and your attempt to push away from that by arguing about what is considered "murder" by some demonstrate this clearly. If you would keep to the simple purpose that this threat started with, which was to demonstrate life in the Arctic through pictures, that would be delightful.
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post Nov 16 2009, 08:44 PM
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The 'highlight' for whaling festival here in Barrow & other villages is Blanket Toss = Nalakutaq (Nah - La - Koo - tuck)

In Barrow - Nalakutaq = WHALING FESTIVAL (one day event).

In Point Hope - Qagarauq = Whaling Festival. (3 days of non stop - food games and much more including - Nalakutaq - blanket toss !!

Here are some candid shots of people enjoying the day. One thing that stands out in this world of the happy people of the Arctic is that .. .. people do not complain !! I find that so enjoyable; that people - give thanks constantly for that which they have received !! Quite the contrast of civilized cites in the lower 48 states !!



COMICAL FORM is the norm when trying to achive a pose in the air. BE CAREFUL this is not the same as landing on a trampoline. This is a hard surface. You can get 'hurt' very easily on this blanket. It takes great skill to perform these fluid movments !!



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post Nov 16 2009, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (Craddosk @ Nov 16 2009, 04:04 PM) *
Furthermore, to attempt to brush apart peer reviewed studies in the scientific literature which clearly state that numerous Arctic animals are perishing as a result of pollution and overhunting is simply demonstrating your irrationality to understand what it occurring. Scientific literature, that is in no part biased by the government, clearly demonstrates that polar bear populations are declining. There is no if, ands, or buts. However, many Inuit individuals wish for hunt quotas to be reduced, or even eliminated completely. Why? The sole reason I can understand is greed.

Here is a link from a scientist that has spent 20 years in the Candian Arctic and he says the OPPOSITE of what you claim READ

You claim that all other individuals are greedy. Rather, if you examine the situation, a polar bear hide goes for thousands of dollars. Why else would the destruction of this animal serve a purpose? Other food sources are even more plentiful, and less dangerous and difficult to kill.

During the last 30 years - in Point Hope, the amount of polar bears killed is less than 10 !!!

Caribou is our meat - the herd we hunt is over 400,000 strong !! We only take that which we need to eat. Wholesale slaughter of animals is not part of our culture or traditions !!



In addition, your claims that from 2003-2009 the sea ice was at its farthest expanse. Rather, I feel that your lying, simple and outright. Scientific literature, satellite photos, and individuals have documented the extreme opposite of what you claim. Further substantiated this is the fact that ships (not submarines) are now able to traverse through what is known as the Northwest passage. This was not possible in the past because of the expanse of multi-year sea ice. Now, it is possible. What does that unequivocally demonstrate? That the sea ice is receding.

READ THE TRUTH it is so clear to see the what - why - !!

Global Governance

Well I enjoy the pictures that you post, your attempt to try and persuade everyone here to follow your beliefs is quite useless. Your claims are clearly unsubstantiated, and your attempt to push away from that by arguing about what is considered "murder" by some demonstrate this clearly. If you would keep to the simple purpose that this threat started with, which was to demonstrate life in the Arctic through pictures, that would be delightful.



I am glad you enjoy the photographs GOOD FOR YOU !! One person claims I have stolen all of these photographs that I did not create them and they were created in the 1970's by someone else !! (he is wrong ) !!

Another person (here in Barrow) CLAIMS I am wrong abut EVERYTHING - (ALTHOUGH he admits he has never been to Point Hope) He states with absolute certantiy that I am EXAGGERTING FALSEHOODS. This ? person ? got caught red handed making up bold face lies that were all proven FALSE !!
Now the truth is this. When I first posted my web site about the People(s) of Point Hope (in great detail) - Patton & Boggs Inc. was crawling on my web site for over a month. Patton Boggs Inc. is a native law firm !! I was about to be sued !! Every single word was scrutinized again and again. As a result .. The North Slope Borough School District has linked to my web site for many many years under [b]TEACHER RESOURCES
!! In other words - EVERYTHING I HAVE TYPED IS ACCURATE !! (AS FAR as the people up here are concerned)[/b]

THE WHALING CAPTAINS & The president of the Alaska Eskimo Whaling Commisson have THANKED ME for the absolute accuracy of my 'words' !!!

Thanks for your input ! It is now recorded for ALL to see !!
Tis a shame we cannot have a civil discussion without someone resorting to calling me names and insisting I am a liar !!

Perish the thought ! I do not have to lie. It is a proven fact now: Main Stream media is overcome with false statements on a daily / hourly basis.

Want to find out the TRUTH ???

I have 978,000 pages (on google) that say exactly what I have posted and - the author lives in Canada 20 years research on this subject !!

It is against the law to sell a polar bear hide in one piece (in Alaska) ! The fur may be used for clothing and Arts & Crafts !

We do not hunt the polar bear - too much work is involved. Yes occasionally we are forced to take one down.. ( sometimes one or two per year). Some years none are killed. We do our best to get them out of the village and back on the ocean ice.



The Inupiaq people ARE NOT : Inuit !! that is a common mistake most people make. INUIT PEOPLES: Live in Canada, Greenland, Iceland, Finland Norway, Russia.

The Siberian and Alaskan Arctic are home for just a mere 20% of the worlds total polar bear population !!

I have photographs and scientific reports that state with very specifically that ocean ice is @ the same levels this year as it was in 1979 !!

I do not HAVE to lie to make my point. I do not exagerate. I post that which I have seen and experienced with my own eyes.

you believe the mainstream media... THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PROVEN TO make up stories instead of reporting on the actual news (event).

GLOBAL WARMING is the biggest scam / hoax of this century 60,000 scientists have signed a petition at the U.N. claiming this is just a hoax in the name of MONEY !! for research to BRING IN "The One World Government!!

You can ALWAYS find two or more sides to each topic on the internet - Using that as your only source is not accurate (sometimes) Case in Point:

God does not exist - 16,300.000 pages (google)

God DOES exist - 19,000,000 pages (google)

ROFLMAO !!!

Now back to the ice !! IN a land that is nice !!


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post Nov 16 2009, 11:54 PM
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Well, the second link you gave me and told me to read puts me straight through to a book. That's nice, but hardly a peer reviewed journal. Rather, a book is considered (in scientific literature) to be an individuals opinion.

Secondly, the first link you posted, the "Christian Science Monitor" displays an editorial article. That is merely someone's choice of facts. Funny enough though, here are two things that directly contradict your earlier statements:
"Polar bears often travel on ice floes, and they can swim "easily" in open water for 60 miles, according to Derocher. "Bears will often hang out on glacier ice or large pieces of multiyear ice" - Page 2
- But I thought polar bears didn't require ice to survive (sarcasm)

"But Derocher still maintains the polar bear is threatened, even if its numbers aren't down all across the circumpolar region where the giant bears live and hunt (). Of the 13 polar bear populations in Canada, at least two are in decline, Derocher says. The number of polar bears along the western edge of Hudson Bay, for example, has fallen by 22 percent over the last decade." - Page 2
-Thus, polar bears are being attacked on two fronts, both from the hunting side and the climate change side. This causes even further decreases in their number

In addition, the editorial relies heavily on the fact that climate change exists. But according to you, global change is instead an attempt at global governance. So, in fact, the article you provide aids in contradicting yourself.

While the Christian Science Monitor is considered an academic journal, editorials in them are not peer reviewed and are instead opinion pieces. So, your own source directly contradicts your own sayings, including this editorial piece. If you would please cite your sources that state ocean ice is relatively unchanged, that would be appreciated. I would prefer recent sources, from 2005 and above. This is to see if they are similar to your Christian Science Monitor editorial, which states that sea ice is decreasing.

Hate to tell you this, but Dr. Andrew Derocher, who has been in the Arctic for over 20 years, has stated in person, in lectures, and in scientific journals that climate change is occurring, polar bears are in danger, and that Arctic whales are in grave danger from overhunting and pollution. How do I know this? Well, I have frequent, in person discussions with him, and attend some of his classes that he teaches.

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This is what my friends like to do with whales ... they only things they shoot are photos ...

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I guess you forget the huge amount of effort that was all over Television when the WHOLE WORLD was watching how the people of Barrow helped save two of the 3 whales that were stuck here in Barrow.

People just do not understand the unique one-ness between the bowhead and the Inupiaq people that has existed for longer than 3,000 years.

Without the whale - these people cannot survive in this harsh climate.

What I would like to witness is an outsider coming up here , working out on that ice pack @ 40 below zero in harsh winds - chopping ice for miles 12 - 14 hours a day with no pay AND NEVER COMPLAIN !!!

shotting directly into the sun - is the most difficult lighting to compensate for. No light meter can correctly read that scene. The only thing any lightmeter can do is 'average' the values.

The easiest way for you to learn correct exposures is to TURN AROUND place the sun at your back - now look at what the sun is shinning on and illuminating.

Lock in those values and turn around face the sun and -=[click]=-





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Jesse Eves October 27th Bowhead whale hunt- depositing his breakfast & lunch into the ocean - several times !! The ocean was extremely rough for a rookie with no sea legs !!



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More images of the fall hunt. Courtesty of Thomas Brower



A whale comes to the surface to breathe and dive again.



Kappii (cup pea) The whale has been harpooned, blood is in the air - the exploding haproon (holder) is floating a short distance away.

Notice how the boats - back off - and wait !!



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