What about Hasselblad Options

[gwhitf]

honestly the battery felt like it can snap right off (has actually happened to me with the 55-110)
Even low end DSLR's ship with optional vertical grips, why is this so impossible for Hasselblad?

Arashm,

I love this picture, in so many ways. I want to take it, and open it in Photoshop, and add Canvas, with a bunch of white around your head, and then take a bunch of those Cartoon Bubbles, and paste them in above your head. These would be all the thoughts that are coming out of your brain, simultaneously, while you're shooting that job.

(And for the record, I was shooting a studio job once, too, with the H1, and literally had the Grip break off in my hand too. Somehow we got it back on, and the camera kept going, but i've been scared of that grip ever since.)

These would be the Cartoon Bubbles of your thoughts, in any given moment:

1. "Wow, this feels like the old Modern Detective magazine, where they put the black bar over the eyes, to conceal their identity. Great design, Pocket Wizard!" (Or did Pocket Wizard and Hasselblad design it this way on purpose, in order to keep your attention on the viewfinder image?)

2. "My left arm hurts."

3. "I'm trying to keep the horizon level, but I've got my left arm sorta against my chest, and trying to keep my elbow against my chest, in order to get a break from the weight, but I've got my right hand on the Grip, but I need to change Fstop by a half-stop, but when I take my Right Thumb from where it is, and try to move that Wheel, I get a CharleyHorse".

4. "I'm hungry. Are there bagels here?"

5. LeftBrain: "What is it, f8, or fFive Six and a half...? Can somebody take a Reading?" Right Brain: "How is the light, is it too centered, is it too boring, should I roll the keylight stand over to the right, to give it more Shadow?"

6. "Damn, did I just break off the PocketWizard with my forehead?"

7. "Wow my left arm REALLY hurts now. What time is it?"

8. "If we're shooting strobe, why didn't somebody put some foamcore up in those window to black them out. My LeftBrain is getting fooled."

9. "Where is the client?"

10. "Man, it sure would be nice to have a Vertical Grip for this camera, so I could just stand normally, in a vertical position, and rest both arms against my chest, like they taught me in school, even though I'm shooting strobe, but where I wouldn't have a CharleyHorse by the third shot. Does anybody have the name of a good Chiropractor?"

11. "How much glass do they really NEED to put into a 50-110 anyway? Seriously".

12. "God, I hope I get paid on this gig. At least we billed the TREC rental direct".

13. "How come it's easier for the Talent to see what fstop I'm on, than me?"

14. "I know I told that model that I was that guy on Entourage on HBO, but the way she's looking at me, I'm not sure she's buying it. What's that that just fell out of her nose?".

15. "Did the front element just fall out of my lens? What's that on the floor?"

16. "God, I'm glad I sold them on shooting this job with Strobe. Can you imagine trying to hold this camera all day long, in this position, shooting window light, at 1/60th...?"

This post has been edited by gwhitf: Nov 14 2009, 10:03 AM

[BrianSmith]

*I do think there should have been a rethink on the name podas though.

Just POA, is easier to understand and sounds better to say I'm a Phase One Artist, rather than a podas.

IMO

PITA was already taken

[BlasR]

By the end of the years we all will keep thinking what will be the best camera/beer

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[arashm]

For the Record I shoot both Hasselblad and Phase, don't own but rent, and sometimes the decision is based on lens availability or even a "deal/special" at a rental house. I'm good with phocus and C1, also shoot tons of canon and my new fav. camera is the panny GF1
so you can figure out where I sit on this for yourself.

Dick Roadnight:

it's not the weight that's a problem, and yes a vertical grip would add even more weight, it's that to hold the camera in vertical you now have to extend your right arm and elbow high and away from your body, with nothing to brace it on, and your wrist is holding the weight down under your arm and wrist.
any support would have to come from your left hand, a vertical grip will allow your elbows to be down by your sides and even supported by your torso.
On this shoot there is too much movement on set to keep up with, I would just use a tripod if I went the monopod route.

GWHITF:

your comments made me laugh partly because they are very close to my reality.
Do as you wish with the image and post it back if you want, should be fun.

4) we actually had this excellent home made yogurt and granola as part of the breaky spread, definitely a hit.
5) NO keep the light in the center, everyone wants edgy and modern on set but you know better that you'll have to clean up the shadow's in post to make it "clean and safe".
6) True, why are the new PW plus 2's made so cheap and plasticky?
12) Umm Yes, but I do take 50% up front almost always, been around the track too many times now to fall for that one....
16) Actually I shoot a lot of Kino Flo stuff, hence the canon usage.

On a more serious note, I do enjoy shooting with H Blad, it's just that the vertical grip thing is a bit of a sore spot for me (no pun)
There is a couple of things I'd like to see and refined in Phocus and I think I'll get them in 2.0...
The LCD on the back is good, I can still get the info I need from it, there is actually a direction pad so I can zoom in and go around in all 4 directions...
And for the most part I think the glass is great.
Wish it had a few more focus points... and in general there is room for improvement.
anyways, back to running files
am

[gwhitf]

Metz SCA 3002.
Works with compatible Metz units.

Mr David Grover:

Can you advise? Metz website shows four flash units compatible with H2. I want the Meat Tenderizer design, with the handle and the whacker. B&H lists these two. Can you advise which is most compatible, easier to use, with H2? Thank you.

Metz 76 MZ-5: http://tinyurl.com/yj58jwo

Metz 45 CL-4 http://tinyurl.com/yl23wnq

They also list some of these as "Basic Kit" and others as "Digital Kit". Is there a YouTube video anywhere that shows how to hook up one of these Metzes to my H2?

[bcooter]

Mr David Grover:
Is there a YouTube video anywhere that shows how to hook up one of these Metzes to my H2?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYWDfPE5dik...feature=related

[KLaban]

...and my new fav. camera is the panny GF1

I'm a whisker away from buying this little pocket rocket.

The problem is I know I'll enjoy using it and know I'll use it when I should be using the H3D.

[David Grover / H...]

Mr David Grover:

Can you advise? Metz website shows four flash units compatible with H2. I want the Meat Tenderizer design, with the handle and the whacker. B&H lists these two. Can you advise which is most compatible, easier to use, with H2? Thank you.

Metz 76 MZ-5: http://tinyurl.com/yj58jwo

Metz 45 CL-4 http://tinyurl.com/yl23wnq

They also list some of these as "Basic Kit" and others as "Digital Kit". Is there a YouTube video anywhere that shows how to hook up one of these Metzes to my H2?

Well both work with the H, so it depends what features you need from the flash itself?

http://www.metz.de/en/photo-electronics/me...nformation.html

Specs are listed there.

As for hooking it up, you need the SCA adapter which goes on the hotshoe. Looks like on the 76 unit you have the additional 'box' which goes on the shoe, on the cheaper 45 unit then a sync cable goes from hot shoe to hammerhead.

D

[Dick Roadnight]

Dick Roadnight:

it's not the weight that's a problem, and yes a vertical grip would add even more weight, it's that to hold the camera in vertical you now have to extend your right arm and elbow high and away from your body, with nothing to brace it on, and your wrist is holding the weight down under your arm and wrist.
any support would have to come from your left hand, a vertical grip will allow your elbows to be down by your sides and even supported by your torso.
On this shoot there is too much movement on set to keep up with, I would just use a tripod if I went the monopod route.

The problem is that you support the whole weight of the camera with your left hand… one technique for relieving your aching muscles occasionally is to hold the camera the other way up… it is not easy to use the shutter button like that with your “trigger” finger, but it is easier if you use your thumb for the shutter button.
If the vertical grip was designed as a replacement hand grip/battery holder with a shutter button on it, it would not increase the weight significantly… but it would be better if it incorporated a balance slider so that you could get the centre of gravity of the camera over you hand for one hand operation.
Any grip should ideally be designed so that you can use the camera horizontally in between vertical shots.

[Toto]

I write all this to counter so many people's assertions here that "MF is better than Canon". Yes, in some circumstances, it is, if you're on a tripod, or if you've got 2400 W/S of Profoto behind you, in a dark studio. But if you think you can just grab that H2, throw it over your shoulder, and walk around handheld and shoot at 1/60th or 1/125th handheld in available light, you'll find that you have 31 or 39 or 50MP of glorious, blurred megapixels. Whereas with the Canon or Nikon or other CMOS camera, the ASAs are vastly different, the lenses are faster, and the mirror is smaller. And with low ASAs of a CCD camera, and slow lenses, there are many occasions when your meter tells you to shoot at 60th or 125th (or slower). So to that Hasselblad accessories page, I'd add a new flash, but also a new Carbon Fiber Tripod, 'cause you're going to need it, if you want sharp megapixels.

Hello everybody !

that's funny, I've just come back from Death Valley ( and from Yosemite) where I met the podas group (a group with girls .. hmm models ...lol) and Michael Reichman. As I'm just a photographer with an H3D31, I didn't mix in hostile territory (joke, yes, Michael, I was the guy next to you at breakfast the last morning). I do photography alone and those workshops are not for me.

Just to say, I was wondering all those days : "but for what reason all those guys, specially those with Nikon/Canon cameras are shooting with tripods ?". At night, ok ! But, in the middle of Death Valley with lot light available, I don't see the reason why. I do landscape photography, and at the best, I use a monopod, but no tripod. All my photos are hand held and they are all sharp !

At Yosemite, at 9 am, you have a photographic tour (1hour !) from the Ansel Adams Gallery. I met the group at the lower Falls, everybody with a tripod (ouuuuh too funny) and I can tell, I was the only one with my Hasselblad without a tripod

I read here someone also saying that the rich people are the market of podas and that they are very demanding in hardware but that they have no artistic needs. That's nonsense, who can tell for everybody artistic needs ? We can see here a lot of good photographs from professional photographers, but very few with artistic quality. A girl (sorry, a model) with a strong flash in the face, a beautiful haircut and a makeup that looks like a plastic doll is not what I call "artistic photography". Just modeling and commercial photography.


My conclusion ?

"please, speak from your experiences, not from prejudices !"

[eronald]

Maybe enough actual *customers* of Hasselblad have spoken by now, so that they will get a vertical grip?

Edmund

[UlfKrentz]

Maybe enough actual *customers* of Hasselblad have spoken by now, so that they will get a vertical grip?

Edmund

We would buy two of those, too!

Cheers, Ulf

[John.Williams]

Mr David Grover:

Can you advise? Metz website shows four flash units compatible with H2. I want the Meat Tenderizer design, with the handle and the whacker. B&H lists these two. Can you advise which is most compatible, easier to use, with H2? Thank you.

Metz 76 MZ-5: http://tinyurl.com/yj58jwo

Metz 45 CL-4 http://tinyurl.com/yl23wnq

They also list some of these as "Basic Kit" and others as "Digital Kit". Is there a YouTube video anywhere that shows how to hook up one of these Metzes to my H2?

LOL, the "meat tenderizer", that one was worth the visit today I will never be able to look at that flash again without chuckling...

You can also use the SCA 3008 extender to place the flash 4 feet away (or use PW for longer)

John
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