abaazov
Feb 10 2006, 08:47 AM
without opening a whole big can of worms, i am just wondering what some of your thoughts are on using filters on your camera. a while back i remember someone here telling me they never use filters. is this opinion shared by others here? can anyoen give me reasons why i should or why i shouldn't?
thanks....
amnon
Tim Gray
Feb 10 2006, 08:52 AM
haze or UV - no unless for protection in exceptional circumstances, eg shooting near saltwater.
circular polarizers - unqualified yes
Neutral Density - yes, sometime no alternative to get the slow speed you need for softenng flowing water
SND's or GND's - open for debate
boku
Feb 10 2006, 09:16 AM
QUOTE(Tim Gray @ Feb 10 2006, 08:52 AM)
haze or UV - no unless for protection in exceptional circumstances, eg shooting near saltwater.
circular polarizers - unqualified yes
Neutral Density - yes, sometime no alternative to get the slow speed you need for softenng flowing water
SND's or GND's - open for debate
I'll double that, word for word.
mikeseb
Feb 10 2006, 09:25 AM
If you are all digital, then I third the two previous motions.
If you are shooting B&W film then judicious use of filters can improve your images. A medium or dark yellow, and a 25 red are my most used filters. I have also used blue filters occasionally for portraiture; they mimic that interesting swarthy effect previously obtained with ortho film.
EricM
Feb 10 2006, 11:31 AM
QUOTE(mikeseb @ Feb 10 2006, 09:25 AM)
If you are all digital, then I third the two previous motions.
If you are shooting B&W film then judicious use of filters can improve your images. A medium or dark yellow, and a 25 red are my most used filters. I have also used blue filters occasionally for portraiture; they mimic that interesting swarthy effect previously obtained with ortho film.
And I'll fourth the previous comments.
I'll add that if you do digital B&W, there is absolutely no need to use the conventional (25 red, medium yellow, etc.) filters when shooting, since you can simulate the effect better in postprocessing (especially using the Convert-to-B&W-Pro plugin for PS). But there is no way to simulate a polarizer accurately after the fact.
Eric
abaazov
Feb 10 2006, 03:17 PM
do we have a concensus???
thanks guys
amnon
macgyver
Feb 10 2006, 04:58 PM
I disagree. If I spend 2 grand on a quality lens of course I'm going to put something on it to protect it. I've seen the friends with the broken and scratched filters to prove it too.
Tim Gray
Feb 10 2006, 06:54 PM
I don't disagree, but I think conscientious use of the lens cap suffices.
situgrrl
Feb 10 2006, 07:29 PM
It depends what you are shooting....anywhere I'm running around a lot, I'll stick on a UV filter - taking off a lens cap takes time and I've missed shots before due to this. With a UV filter, the cap stays in my pocket until the action's gone. My cameras live on my shoulder and sleep in a bag for much of my work.
UV filters are needed in the mountains too.
I always wanted a tabacco grad when I shot film but then I discovered scanners and photoshop. Never used one but I heard they were difficult to make look natural.
KSH
Feb 21 2006, 09:32 AM
Ok, I am going to wade in here although it's well above my head.
Julia and Iliah Borg of the RawMagick-Team argue that the use of colour filters will help to reduce noise and increase dynamic range. See for example this dpr thread:
Link or this one from nikoncafe:
Link. I think the general idea is to prevent in particular the noise-prone blue channel from being underexposed and, thus, in need of signal enhancement. In other words, they are saying
Similarly, they argue for the use of an IR-blocking filter for more accurate white-balancing.
Karsten
dwdallam
Feb 22 2006, 05:17 AM
I've heard lots about filters for digital use. I always use UV for protection and I have one for each of my lenses. They never come off, except when I stack a ND and a polarizer.
So, pretty much agree here: ND filters, polarizer, and UV protectors--all good.
Color filters? Do some research. You can set color balance in RAW with no loss in quality, from what I understand because the information is still in RAW form. All you are doing is the same thing a filter does, when using digital cameras, and you can do it after the fact in a RAW program. Is this accurate? If so, it is one of those things that makes digital so nice--White Balance is no longer a real issue, even when you are shooting with strobes. You can simple use small adjustments in camera RAW to get the balance you need.
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