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pbizarro
There was a thread a couple of weeks ago about this new camera, so I thought that perhaps some people might be interested in seeing images from this camera. I have been photographing with it around some of my favourite places in Muscat, Oman.

One such place is the Mutrah fish market, in the old part of town. Every day, since dawn, fishermen arrive in their boats, and unload the fish in this market. It is a good opportunity to obtain some nice shots. I am familiar with the place, and so I took the little Ricoh for a spin.

Some photos can be seen in the link provided (top two rows are from the GX100).



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BernardLanguillier
Thanks for sharing, some very nice pics in there.

I have similary created a Flickr set with various images shot with the GX100:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardlangui...57600186496104/

Regards,
Bernard
erusan
To the above gentlemen:

did you use that periscope viewfinder/EVF? What's it like in real use? I have given it a try in the store, and it seemed rather small.

I forgot, but is that EVF a free accessory or do you have to pay even more money to get it... That GX100 sure looks very cool, both of your galleries have some nice pictures in them, but oh! the money!
jjj
How the RAW write speed? I tried a Ricoh GR1-D and it was pathetic. 15secs between shots, not much use for street work, which is what a camera like that is ideal for.
If it was 1-2 secs I'd have bought one.

Bernard I notice you also mention it's noisy.
I got a mint Canon S70 I came across second hand to replace my S60 and the quality is noticably inferior to it's lower res predecessor.
BernardLanguillier
QUOTE(erusan @ May 21 2007, 07:19 PM)
To the above gentlemen:

did you use that periscope viewfinder/EVF? What's it like in real use? I have given it a try in the store, and it seemed rather small.
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Nope, I haven't even tried it once so far... the external screen is not too bad even in the outdoors, I managed to use it so far.

QUOTE(erusan @ May 21 2007, 07:19 PM)
I forgot, but is that EVF a free accessory or do you have to pay even more money to get it... That GX100 sure looks very cool, both of your galleries have some nice pictures in them, but oh! the money!
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The EVF is indeed free.

Regards,
Bernard
BernardLanguillier
QUOTE(jjj @ May 22 2007, 12:02 AM)
How the RAW write speed? I tried a Ricoh GR1-D and it was pathetic. 15secs between shots, not much use for street work, which is what a camera like that is ideal for.
If it was 1-2 secs I'd have bought one.
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6 sec with the average fast SD card I am using. Too slow, but usable for my kind of shooting. You just have to think a bit more and try to get it right the first time... the decisive moment has never been more important.

QUOTE(jjj @ May 22 2007, 12:02 AM)
Bernard I notice you also mention it's noisy.
I got a mint Canon S70 I came across second hand to replace my S60 and the quality is noticably inferior to it's lower res predecessor.
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Yes, it is noisy at anything but ISO 80 and 100. Even at those, you can see noise clearly when looking at the images at 100% on screen, but I believe that it wouldn't be a problem at all in print.

Regards,
Bernard


Phuong
can somebody tell me if it can take RAW+JPG (at the same time, of course) and if yes, how much time if it does.

from Bernard's sample image in the other thread it looks like this camera gives pretty good quality, comparable to the canon G7. the price difference is probably just right for the added RAW capability.
pbizarro
QUOTE(Phuong @ May 22 2007, 02:18 AM)
can somebody tell me if it can take RAW+JPG (at the same time, of course) and if yes, how much time if it does.
from Bernard's sample image in the other thread it looks like this camera gives pretty good quality, comparable to the canon G7. the price difference is probably just right for the added RAW capability.
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Yes it can, and as Bernard said above, it takes about 5-6 seconds.

Well, the price difference is perhaps the RAW, but also the great little lens!
pbizarro
QUOTE(erusan @ May 21 2007, 12:19 PM)
To the above gentlemen:

did you use that periscope viewfinder/EVF? What's it like in real use? I have given it a try in the store, and it seemed rather small.

I forgot, but is that EVF a free accessory or do you have to pay even more money to get it... That GX100 sure looks very cool, both of your galleries have some nice pictures in them, but oh! the money!
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No, I did not buy the camera with the EVF, it was more expensive (I bought mine from Adorama, and they have two offers, with, and without, the EVF).

I think that for what it offers, the GX100 is actually very good value. What else out there offers a 24-72 zoom lens of good quality, plus RAW, plus great controls and build, plus image stabilization?

If I want to shoot slide film with a similar package, I need to grab my 1V plus the 24-70L, so...
Nill Toulme
QUOTE(pbizarro @ May 22 2007, 07:38 AM)
No, I did not buy the camera with the EVF, it was more expensive (I bought mine from Adorama, and they have two offers, with, and without, the EVF).

I think that for what it offers, the GX100 is actually very good value. What else out there offers a 24-72 zoom lens of good quality, plus RAW, plus great controls and build, plus image stabilization?

If I want to shoot slide film with a similar package, I need to grab my 1V plus the 24-70L, so...
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Bernard you're starting to get me interested in this camera. What are you using to convert the RAW files? Is the ISO 400 good? Is the ISO 800 truly usable?

Nill
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BernardLanguillier
QUOTE(Nill Toulme @ May 22 2007, 06:51 PM)
Bernard you're starting to get me interested in this camera.  What are you using to convert the RAW files?  Is the ISO 400 good?  Is the ISO 800 truly usable?

Nill
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I have been converting the DNG files with Lightroom. The default colors without specific calibration are not that great I have to say (very flat colors), but this can be enhanced in PS.

The noise at 400 and 800 ISO seemed very visible when I tried (only a couple of shots) which didn't encourage me to test more. I could actually be that the problem is not as big when printing at reasonnable sized. Either way, the GX100 is clearly not the camera I would recommend for low light shooting, even if the image stabilitzation works well.

Anyway, I try my very best to stick to ISO 80, sometimes go to 100 and 200, but nearly never 400.

Regards,
Bernard
Phuong
is the EVF a separate accessory? i can see that on Adorama they offer 2 versions, with and without EVF. the without-EVF version (which is 100$ cheaper) is out of stock, but the with-EVF is in stock, which makes me thingking that they're part of the camera (or else they could have always detached the EVFs and sell the cameras with out it, couldn't they)
BernardLanguillier
In Japan there is only one version with EVF.

REgards,
Bernard
Nill Toulme
QUOTE(BernardLanguillier @ May 22 2007, 12:05 PM)
... Either way, the GX100 is clearly not the camera I would recommend for low light shooting, even if the image stabilitzation works well.
...
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That's good news, thanks. ;-) (It means I don't have to think about buying one any more.)

Nill
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Morgan_Moore
QUOTE(BernardLanguillier @ May 22 2007, 01:11 AM)
6 sec with the average fast SD card I
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can you say that again - SIX seconds ?? no buffer at all ?

(It means I don't have to think about buying one any more.)
BernardLanguillier
QUOTE(Morgan_Moore @ May 23 2007, 03:58 AM)
can you say that again - SIX seconds ??  no buffer at all ?

(It means I don't have to think about buying one any more.)
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Welcome to the world of compact digital RAW shooting. smile.gif

Cheers,
Bernard
pbizarro
QUOTE(Morgan_Moore @ May 22 2007, 08:58 PM)
can you say that again - SIX seconds ??  no buffer at all ?

(It means I don't have to think about buying one any more.)
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Well, it is a lot better than the 12 seconds of the GRD... The LX1 I had before would take 4-5 seconds. Same with the Panasonic FZ50.

Other cameras are faster, but wait, they don't have RAW...

If you want to shoot RAW and have a fast buffer at the same time, then stick to a DSLR.
Morgan_Moore
QUOTE(BernardLanguillier @ May 22 2007, 09:27 PM)
Welcome to the world of compact digital RAW shooting. smile.gif

Cheers,
Bernard
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Yeah Ive never had a compact yet and probably wont for a while !

I used to use 2 D100s at the same time for this reason

Rember the magnum guy on RG who was in iraq with about 5 compacts !

Maybe I hang on to RAW and the 'latitude' like a baby hangs onto a rag because it allows sloppy exposure

Maybe jpgs are the new slide - only for experts

Are they (jpgs) actually any worse than RAWs off a chip this size ?

What is the shutter lag like ?

What is the FPS on jpg ?

SMM

Kenneth Sky
What happened to the Sigma DP-1? It was supposed to solve all these problems.
zeitspuren
QUOTE(Morgan_Moore @ May 23 2007, 08:48 AM)
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Are they (jpgs) actually any worse than RAWs off a chip this size ?

What is the shutter lag like ?

What is the FPS on jpg ?

SMM
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Hello SMM,

I just bought the GX100 two days ago and am quite amazed by this little jewel of a cam. I can't tell you about the JPG/RAW differences, I don't own ARC (yet), and the included RAW converter software seems pretty poor.

The short shutter lag (for a compact cam) is one of the reasons this is my second Ricoh - I owned the original GX. Switching the cam on takes only about a second. The shutter lag is minimal, less than 0,1 sec. AF may take some time, depending on subject/light, but there's a snap mode, manual focusing and of course prefocusing.

There's a small delay until the image appears on the LCD screen or in the EVF. For time critical shooting (like groups) I have dug out my old russian external revolving viewfinder. The 28 mm setting has some space around the actual image that almost fits the 24 mm of the GX100. I have tried this out by shooting cars crossing a signpost - there's definitely a slight advantage over LCD/EVF. However, this partially blocks the built-in flash from popping up.

The "FPS" for highest resolution JPG's depends partially on the SD card used. With my cheap 1 GB Sandisc card, I snap around 15 pictures/10 seconds in the continous shooting mode. The first three or four shots are taken a bit quicker.

Martin
jjj
QUOTE(BernardLanguillier @ May 22 2007, 01:11 AM)
6 sec with the average fast SD card I am using. Too slow, but usable for my kind of shooting. You just have to think a bit more and try to get it right the first time... the decisive moment has never been more important.
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It's not getting the decisive moment that's the problem, but the decisive moment that happens just after you've taken a picture.

Whenever I've tried one it's always taken 14-15 secs between shots. Considerably longer than you've experienced.
GLuijk

I am surprised at the nice and strong bokeh achieved on some portraits of your gallery. Is really so easy to get background blur with this camera? what f-stop equivalence to full frame can be expected from this Ricoh at maximum aperture?
jjj
QUOTE(GLuijk @ Jun 26 2007, 08:42 AM)
I am surprised at the nice and strong bokeh achieved on some portraits of your gallery. Is really so easy to get background blur with this camera? what f-stop equivalence to full frame can be expected from this Ricoh at maximum aperture?
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Who's gallery are you talking about, Guillermo?
GLuijk
QUOTE(jjj @ Jun 26 2007, 04:21 PM)
Who's gallery are you talking about, Guillermo?
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Paulo Bizarro's, it was linked above:

pbizarro's website
pbizarro
QUOTE(GLuijk @ Jun 26 2007, 03:41 PM)
Paulo Bizarro's, it was linked above:

pbizarro's website
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As I said in my initial post, only the top two rows of photos were taken with the GX100 (10 photos). The portrait you refer to (the one of the old man?) is from SLR and 70-200 f/4 zoom.
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