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BlasR
Little be of splash
ixpressraf
It really depends of the lens you have. i have had two lenses wich were totally unsharp but my recent one is fairly sharp. As mentioned before, the hartblei are fun lenses, even the ones with the carl zeiss glass are not up to the mamiya quality glass. I have the 35. 80 and 120mm for my canon and the 45 for the mamiya and they all produce beuatifull images..... dry.gif
NBP
From earlier this week.
Bernina Pass, Switzerland. A65/RZ/110mm

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haefnerphoto
Thanks for the update on the Hartblei lenses. I think I'll wait to see if something new comes along. As far as the shifter shot is concerned, we removed the driver's side seat, played around with the angle a bit and shot it with the Mamiya 28mm at F22. The lighting is a combination of direct and diffused, it was shot with the P45. I can't see the benefit of upgrading to the P45+, although if a larger sensor were to be announced I probably would go for it. Jim
vgogolak
I'm still amazed at the 'tele' use of good glass and back
This is Queribus, a Cathar site in SW France
Streetwise
QUOTE (haefnerphoto @ Mar 19 2008, 05:07 PM)
Thanks for the update on the Hartblei lenses.  I think I'll wait to see if something new comes along.  As far as the shifter shot is concerned, we removed the driver's side seat, played around with the angle a bit and shot it with the Mamiya 28mm at F22.  The lighting is a combination of direct and diffused, it was shot with the P45.  I can't see the benefit of upgrading to the P45+, although if a larger sensor were to be announced I probably would go for it.  Jim
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Isn't another big benefit of the + series to be longer exposures? I know that doesn't apply for the car shots, but I'm wondering about architecture work. By the looks of it though, your P45 hands longer exposures quite well. What are some of the longer exposures that you've done with that back?

Dave
jpjespersen
Nice color. I could really work this location.
Good job.
JP
QUOTE (NBP @ Mar 19 2008, 03:57 PM)
From earlier this week.
Bernina Pass, Switzerland. A65/RZ/110mm

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Frank Doorhof
A few I shot today during a 1:1 workshop, so I had a little bit more time to also experiment biggrin.gif


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BlasR
FLORIDA
clawery
QUOTE (NBP @ Mar 19 2008, 03:57 PM)
From earlier this week.
Bernina Pass, Switzerland. A65/RZ/110mm

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Makes me want to go back and visit some of my relatives.... and ski.

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haefnerphoto
In response to the question about long exposure times with the P45, we frequently make exposures of 40-60 seconds. There is no problem with noise at those exposure times but it's my understanding that the P45 will handle much longer exposures. Jim
clawery
QUOTE (Streetwise @ Mar 19 2008, 08:25 PM)
Isn't another big benefit of the + series to be longer exposures? I know that doesn't apply for the car shots, but I'm wondering about architecture work. By the looks of it though, your P45 hands longer exposures quite well. What are some of the longer exposures that you've done with that back?

Dave
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Dave,

The P45 (non P+) could do long exposures even before the newer P+ backs came out. Here is a new tool that might be of help to you also. It is the Multi-Pop / Multi-Exposure box from Kapture Group.

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snickgrr
I do not see that on the Kapture Group website..Do you have a link?
jonstewart
QUOTE (haefnerphoto @ Mar 19 2008, 12:53 AM)
Those of you who use the Hartblei, what can you say concerning it's sharpness?  How about a comparison to Mamiya 645 lenses?  I shoot a lot of studio automotive subjects and crispness is necessary.  Any info would be helpful.  To keep the subject on the thread, here's a couple of recent shots.  Thanks, Jim
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The Hartblei (my copy at least) is not quite as sharp as the 45mm Sekor C Mamiya I have. When you apply movements, it just goes downhill from there. I couldn't honestly recommend it, and keep meaning to shift mine on ebay. (Pardon the pun!)

In terms of design it's excellent, just a pity the sharpness doesn't match up.

DISCLAIMER: Other may not share my opinion!

Jon
haefnerphoto
Jon, I appreciate your insights. Free1000 was kind enough to shoot a comparison between his Hartblei, a 47mm Schneider (I think) and a Canon 24 T/S and send it along to me. Each were shifted 6mm and they all looked acceptable to me. I believe it's Chris that has them for rent and I think that would be the best way for me to check the quality. I really want the tilt capability for my automotive work, shooting across dashboards, etc and probably will have that opportunity in a couple of weeks. Jim
Streetwise
QUOTE (snickgrr @ Mar 21 2008, 06:39 PM)
I do not see that on the Kapture Group website..Do you have a link?
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http://www.captureintegration.com/2008/03/...iple-exposures/

Chris,

Sounds nice! Does it work with Leaf rolleyes.gif ?

Dave
James R Russell
JR

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reproduction without written consent is prohibited by law.
Frank Doorhof
My kid will go crazy when he sees the Ronaldinho shots biggrin.gif
Great work Russel.
free1000
QUOTE (haefnerphoto @ Mar 22 2008, 02:07 AM)
Jon, I appreciate your insights.  Free1000 was kind enough to shoot a comparison between his Hartblei, a 47mm Schneider (I think) and a Canon 24 T/S and send it along to me.  Each were shifted 6mm and they all looked acceptable to me.  I believe it's Chris that has them for rent and I think that would be the best way for me to check the quality.  I really want the tilt capability for my automotive work, shooting across dashboards, etc and probably will have that opportunity in a couple of weeks.  Jim
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Yes best to rent and test. Keep in mind that there is some barrel distortion with the Hartblei that didn't appear obvious with my test shot. Its correctible in photoshop though, and for the subject matter where I want to use it, its acceptable.
condit79
So thatīs why ronaldinho hasnīt been playing much. The shot in the stadium is pretty fantastic.
Morgan_Moore
QUOTE (James R Russell @ Mar 22 2008, 06:02 AM)
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Can I ask how you got that in focus !

Super bright modelling lights ?

Mark on the ground ?

Demon eyesight ?

Loads of tries ?

it was light really ?

Small aperture (obvioulsy)

Or what ?

Obviouly thats the sort of thing that MF AF wont handle

is there a fill light or just the key lights

S
Jason F
Morgan-

I can't claim to speak for James, but I feel pretty sure that this image is a composite of at least 4 if not more captures.

1. For the grass/ground.
2. Player & ball (or perhaps they're seperate captures as well)
3. Stadium seats
4. Stadium lighting (which may be one capture or may be several)


The biggest giveaway that it's a composite: look at the players foot on the ground- there are some dof discrepencies I feel- between the player, the grass, and the stadium seats.

Oh, and the player is most definitely lit artificially but he did a good job of making it look natural.

It's a very nice shot though, I like it a lot. Good job James!

QUOTE (Morgan_Moore @ Mar 22 2008, 10:17 AM)
Can I ask how you got that in focus !

Super bright modelling lights ?

Mark on the ground ?

Demon eyesight ?

Loads of tries ?

it was light really ?

Small aperture (obvioulsy)

Or what ?

Obviouly thats the sort of thing that MF AF wont handle

is there a fill light or just the key lights

S
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James R Russell
QUOTE (Morgan_Moore @ Mar 22 2008, 10:17 AM)
Can I ask how you got that in focus !

Super bright modelling lights ?

Mark on the ground ?

Demon eyesight ?

Loads of tries ?

it was light really ?

Small aperture (obvioulsy)

Or what ?

Obviouly thats the sort of thing that MF AF wont handle

is there a fill light or just the key lights

S
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Demon eyesight and extraordinary talent. smile.gif

Actually he was shot in a Barcelona studio on black with lighting to somewhat mimic stadium light direction and the backgrounds were shot in the Barcelona Stadium during a match prior to the studio session.

The lighting on the main image is 6 lights, profotos, two octobanks and two beauty dishes placed to the side and way behind him and the fill is a series of 4x8 b-board, and a 12x vertical silk with one beauty dish on very low power flight slight fill.

The main image was shot with a P-30+ and Contax on continuous focus and as long as the Contax has some contrast it track focuses very well, always has.

Obviously he's not moving at the intensity he does at the stadium, but even in a studio session he does move very quickly.

For this shoot there were hundreds of people involved, from managers, clients, crew and the pressure and time is intense, so we ran two sessions one on white, one on black and alternated.

Every session I started with medium format to cover the main imagery, then for smaller or faster images used the Nikon D-3 and the Leica, though the hero images were all medium format.

This is 4 1/2 images, 1. Ronaldino and the ball 2. stadium lights, 3. stadium grass, 4. stadium stands, 5. added people to go into the stands. for a graphic effect.

JR
thsinar
That's what I was thinking too. However, a wonderful image.

Thierry

QUOTE (Jason F @ Mar 22 2008, 10:07 PM)
Morgan-

I can't claim to speak for James, but I feel pretty sure that this image is a composite of at least 4 if not more captures.

1. For the grass/ground.
2. Player & ball (or perhaps they're seperate captures as well)
3. Stadium seats
4. Stadium lighting (which may be one capture or may be several)
The biggest giveaway that it's a composite: look at the players foot on the ground- there are some dof discrepencies I feel- between the player, the grass, and the stadium seats.

Oh, and the player is most definitely lit artificially but he did a good job of making it look natural.

It's a very nice shot though, I like it a lot. Good job James!
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James R Russell
QUOTE (thsinar @ Mar 22 2008, 11:12 AM)
That's what I was thinking too. However, a wonderful image.

Thierry
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Obviously the ronald image was planned as a composite so the main image was shot with the P-30+ not so much for the pixel count as the ability to work the files deep in post.

I wouldn't advocate trying to mount a 400 mm lens of a medium format camera and shooting fast sports on locaiton, (though it has been done), butwhen we have any form of control we always start with medium format and you don't need 20 fps to catch the right look at the right time, in fact learning to anticipate the moment usually has a better result than just holding the button down.

This image was also shot medium format and though I only get one or two frames per attempt, all you actually need is one.



This person is moving very, very fast and even the strobes don't hold pin point sharpness.

The blur on the racket is real (though added in post from another frame) and since it is shot with studio strobes it gives you some idea of how fast this subject is moving.



JR
Morgan_Moore
Thanks for that very insightful

Obviously with the subject in the middle the focus becomes less of an issue

This is prefocussing (in the near dark no modeling lights) and demon talent...

Cast of two - me and runner smile.gif

(sinarback on H1)

SMM
Morgan_Moore
More H1 action - almost all MF with a low hit rate - you do indeed need only one frame

(all single captures)

SMM
AndrewDyer
Some great stuff there Sam.
You must have some quick fingers!!... and obviously some forethought and planning.
cheers
A
Morgan_Moore
Thanks tongue.gif

S
James R Russell


P30+

JR
foto-z
^ That last one is great, James. Love the lighting, model and colours.
free1000


Hartblei SR45 + A75 and Mamiya AFDII
godtfred
QUOTE (James R Russell @ Mar 23 2008, 04:55 PM)
JR
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Photog:
IMAGE(s):
thsinar
WOAW! for this one, James!

Thierry

QUOTE (James R Russell @ Mar 23 2008, 10:55 PM)
JR
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jjj
QUOTE (James R Russell @ Mar 22 2008, 04:09 PM)
we always start with medium format and you don't need 20 fps to catch the right look at the right time, in fact learning to anticipate the moment usually has a better result than just holding the button down.

This image was also shot medium format and though I only get one or two frames per attempt, all you actually need is one.
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Too right. Too many photographers, it seems these days, simply engage motordrive and hold shutter button down and hope to get the shot.
Nice pics BTW.
AndreNapier
an
Frank Doorhof
@Andre and James,
Always looking forward to your postings biggrin.gif
thsinar
... and what about yours, Frank? I guess that you, together with Andre and James, are the ones I am looking forward to!

Bets regards,
Thierry

QUOTE (Frank Doorhof @ Mar 24 2008, 04:57 PM)
@Andre and James,
Always looking forward to your postings biggrin.gif
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Morgan_Moore
QUOTE (AndreNapier @ Mar 24 2008, 05:36 AM)
Couple images from my recent six page Fashion Story for Mercedes Benz Magazine.
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Andre.

That red blob looks like and open aperture - but the DOF does not - is it post ?

Are you prepared to indicate the outline of your smoothing skin method and waht % is youth and MUA

What about some before and afters?

(same to james before and afters pleeeese)

SMM
clawery
QUOTE (Streetwise @ Mar 21 2008, 09:22 PM)
http://www.captureintegration.com/2008/03/...iple-exposures/

Chris,

Sounds nice! Does it work with Leaf  rolleyes.gif  ?

Dave
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Dave,

Sorry for the delay in my reply. The Kapture Group cable is only meant for the Phase One backs. You can read a bit more about it on our web site. Jeffrey Totaro has an article explaining how he uses it for long and multiple exposures.

http://www.captureintegration.com/solutions/featuredproduct/

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SecondFocus
QUOTE (AndreNapier @ Mar 23 2008, 10:36 PM)
Couple images from my recent six page Fashion Story for Mercedes Benz Magazine.
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WOW, very nice!
Frank Doorhof
Thanks so much Thierry.
BJNY
A lovefest here biggrin.gif
Adina
QUOTE (godtfred @ Mar 23 2008, 10:08 PM)
Photog:
IMAGE(s):
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JR,Andre

it's a dream
AndreNapier
QUOTE (Morgan_Moore @ Mar 24 2008, 07:11 AM)
Andre.

That red blob looks like and open aperture - but the DOF does not - is it post ?

Are you prepared to indicate the outline of your smoothing skin method and waht % is youth and MUA

What about some before and afters?

(same to james before and afters pleeeese)

SMM
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The image was shot with Rz/A75s 110mm/4.0 with the back just few inches above the water surface.
On published commercial images I truly can not post the befores but I will (and did it in past here) on
less important work.
I always get the best MUA money can buy at any location even if the budget is short and part of it has to come from my pocket. On the shot in question there is a body make-up on all exposed skin. It cuts the post 80%.
http://andrenapier.com
david olivier
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marc gerritsen
the 59 shot is excellent
and imho certainly stands up to what is posted here
cheers
marc


QUOTE (david olivier @ Mar 26 2008, 05:52 AM)
though call after what was posted...

not even MF but you can't kill me tongue.gif
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Frank Doorhof
Same here on the 59 shot.
Wonderful eye for photoops in the not so obvious.
david olivier
Thanks guys... I greatly appreciate.
Mike W
I spent some time with two expensive toys. One being a Hasselblad H3DII-31.
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