So I have imported a set of images to lightroom 2.0, and as I scroll through the images in develop, the image pops up... the color is one way (which I happen to like considerably) then it changes to the profile that is in the camera calibration tab - which for me happens to be 'camera neutral' for my 1dsm2. I really really like the color rendering BEFORE it changes to 'camera neutral' yet none of the options in the profile selector will put the color back to where it was as the image pops up... any suggestions?
Thanks!
*steve
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The initial previews are the built in thumbs. If those are preferable use DPP.
Or, better yet, use the new Camera beta profiles here:
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles
They will produce nearly the same color & tone results as DPP (for default settings).
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles
They will produce nearly the same color & tone results as DPP (for default settings).
Hmm, I guess I was not clear enough...
I do use DPP for most of my processing, but the inital thumbnails that pop up in lightroom - when the preferences are set to use the new DNG/ACR camera profiles, which in my case I have set to use 'camera neutral' - are a slightly different color before lightroom has time to fully process the preview.
It's like this - I open a folder of a lot of images (100+)
Lightroom begins making the previews for the standard 'fit screen size'
If I click on an image while in the develop tab, to show the preview at 'fit screen size' before lightroom has a chance to fully process the preview, the color is just a tiny bit different that the processed preview and it only stays that way for a second or two... mainly - the image is devoid completely of the slight reddish cast that is so ever present in the 'camera neutral' profile (which happens to be exactly the same as DPP shows it).
If I drop down the saturation in the red primary, it almost is the same... but not quite.
*shrug* maybe i am just chasing a ghost here... but I am not sure considering the software is using something to show that inital screen preview before applying the profile and it is not the same as DPP shows it, it is not the same as an in camera JPG, and it is not the same as any of the other selectable profiles...
*steve
I do use DPP for most of my processing, but the inital thumbnails that pop up in lightroom - when the preferences are set to use the new DNG/ACR camera profiles, which in my case I have set to use 'camera neutral' - are a slightly different color before lightroom has time to fully process the preview.
It's like this - I open a folder of a lot of images (100+)
Lightroom begins making the previews for the standard 'fit screen size'
If I click on an image while in the develop tab, to show the preview at 'fit screen size' before lightroom has a chance to fully process the preview, the color is just a tiny bit different that the processed preview and it only stays that way for a second or two... mainly - the image is devoid completely of the slight reddish cast that is so ever present in the 'camera neutral' profile (which happens to be exactly the same as DPP shows it).
If I drop down the saturation in the red primary, it almost is the same... but not quite.
*shrug* maybe i am just chasing a ghost here... but I am not sure considering the software is using something to show that inital screen preview before applying the profile and it is not the same as DPP shows it, it is not the same as an in camera JPG, and it is not the same as any of the other selectable profiles...
*steve
QUOTE (semillerimages @ Aug 10 2008, 08:18 AM)
Hmm, I guess I was not clear enough...
I do use DPP for most of my processing, but the inital thumbnails that pop up in lightroom - when the preferences are set to use the new DNG/ACR camera profiles, which in my case I have set to use 'camera neutral' - are a slightly different color before lightroom has time to fully process the preview.
I do use DPP for most of my processing, but the inital thumbnails that pop up in lightroom - when the preferences are set to use the new DNG/ACR camera profiles, which in my case I have set to use 'camera neutral' - are a slightly different color before lightroom has time to fully process the preview.
Right. What Eric is saying is select a different profile which more closely matches the embedded thumbnails in the Raw such that when LR updates its own preview, it more closely matches the camera built thumbnail.
Sigh. I guess I really cannot explain it right 
None of the other profiles are close except the 'camera neutral'. I understand I can make a preset configuration to kind of get close... but obviously lightroom uses something to generate that inital view and it is not the in camera jpg because the in camera jpg looks different
Maybe i can capture it in a printscreen and post it... lemme try that!
*steve
None of the other profiles are close except the 'camera neutral'. I understand I can make a preset configuration to kind of get close... but obviously lightroom uses something to generate that inital view and it is not the in camera jpg because the in camera jpg looks different
Maybe i can capture it in a printscreen and post it... lemme try that!
*steve
QUOTE (digitaldog @ Aug 10 2008, 04:09 PM)
Right. What Eric is saying is select a different profile which more closely matches the embedded thumbnails in the Raw such that when LR updates its own preview, it more closely matches the camera built thumbnail.
It looks different because it is different. Even if the profiles get it close (and they will only if you use the standard modes in camera) it is still LR's rendering so it will be different.
You could try modifying the DNG profiles until they get close to your in camera settings.
You could try modifying the DNG profiles until they get close to your in camera settings.
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