Here is the link to the announcement as reported at DPR:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091705canon_5dmarkII.asp

Best,
Bruce

P.S. $2700 (U.S.)

God I want that.

The 24mm f1.4L II USM to go with it.

[quote=BruceHouston,Sep 17 2008, 04:02 AM]
Here is the link to the announcement as reported at DPR:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091705canon_5dmarkII.asp

Best,
Bruce



Did somebody say home run or what. I have been checking this site every few hours for the news.
drgary

Me too man, me too.

Just tell me what retailer will have it first, and when.

Canon's web site is being destroyed right now.

In theory sample video page ...

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos5dm2/02.html#01

In theory sample image page ...

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos5dm2/e...2_sample-e.html

Canon USA has it already on their site, but it appears their site just blew up


Key Specifications:

New 21.1 Megapixel CMOS sensor with improved EOS Integrated Cleaning System (E.I.C.S.)
New Full HD 1080 resolution movie recording
3.9 frames per second continuous shooting
High performance DIGIC 4 providing superb image quality
Maximum 310 large JPEG images in a single burst with a UDMA card
3.0” VGA (920k dots) Clear View LCD
ISO 100-6400 (expansion from 50 up to 25,600)
9 AF points + 6 Assist AF points

I have been pouring over the specs...

EF-S lenses are supported!!!!! Yay; I can keep my EF-S 10-22mm.

Jeess.. dont forget the direct print button! Phew! Im glad they kept that!

The video shot with the 15mm fisheye looks like some sort of IMAX filming!

Mentally I have been pooh-poohing all the convergence hype, but the sample videos are beginning to get me excited.

The landscape photo is interesting. It only took about 30 minutes to download. I can't get the portrait to download.

Hopefully zooming will not be disabled in video mode. I cannot find any reference to that; but the manufacturers seem to do that often.

If zoom is not disabled in this 5D Mark II, RED may need not bother with their rumored convergence model offering.

How on earth can zooming be disabled in a camera where zooming is accomplished my manually shifting the lens elements with a mechanical zoom ring (i.e. all current dSLRs)?

Excellent point. Having video in a DSLR is so new to me that I am probably confusing it with P&S technology.

Try this link for a quick portrait sample image download:

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos5dm2/d.../1_portrait.jpg

And landscape:

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos5dm2/d...2_landscape.jpg

Hmm, not certain about that, as DPReview says:

Can anyone find any availability statement?

Canon USA lists availability of the new lens as October, but I do not see the Mark II availability.

See the specs/features on the Canon USA website.

It appears that EF-S lenses cannot be used in video mode.

EF-S lenses cannot be used PERIOD.

Did you look at the Canon USA website as I suggested, or are you just spouting off "randomly" as my teenage daughter would say?

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controll...odelFeaturesAct

Are there any sites that had a pre-release model, with initial impressions posted?

If the IQ is there, the new 24mm is REALLY tempting.

Paul

Rob Galbraith has a good write-up up. Essentially new sensor, processor, LCD and old body / shutter / AF, albeit with minor improvements. And, of course, video.

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_p...cid=7-9316-9603

I doubt it, since DPR says that they were just handed their copy at the release and promised to post their "hands-on review" later today.

for clarification.

from the linked Canon USA site.


not sure if that is entirely clear. the two bold sections seem to be midly contradictory

also on the .jp site the lenses only specify 50 EF* lenses compatible. then later in the page it says "* Except EF-S lenses"

so no EF-S lensess i don't think

Canon US info on the 5DII seem to be all over the place. Bad cut-and-paste work from the 50D IMO.

Bruce, as far as I can tell, there is absolutely no mention of 5DII compatibility with EF-S lenses in the document you reference or anywhere else I've read so far.

In fact, under "specs" for the 5DII Canon says says:

Compatible Lenses
Canon EF lenses
(35mm-equivalent focal length is approx. 1.6x the lens focal length)
Lens Mount
Canon EF mount

(Although it looks like they mistakenly mixed in a bit of the 50D announcement with that mention of "35mm-equivalent focal length is approx. 1.6x...")

The only thing I can think of is that you're looking at specs for the EOS 50D?

Paul

Availability end of November, per Galbraith. Jees, now that they've announced it, they have to go figure out how to build it by the bizillions.

Paul,

The link that I posted should take you to the "features" tab of the 5D Mark II on the Canon USA website.

Click on the link for the last feature in red, "Compatible with over 60 Canon EF/EF-S lenses and most EOS System accessories."

Right. But I believe that the "* Except EF-S lenses" is located under a video mode description. I could be wrong, though (and usually am).

I think we can confidently declare that Canon have risen to the challenge of asserting their status as Numero Uno in relation to Nikon and Sony.

The 5D MkII hasn't got everything, however. I don't see auto ISO in relation to a specified aperture and shutter speed. The lack of such a feature has sometimes got me into trouble when, for example, I'm trekking along a mountain track with camera in 'aperture priority' mode, and a Tibetan horseman races around the corner.

I've got no time to change ISO to accommodate a higher shutter speed and the opportunity for a sharp shot is missed.

I shall appreciate the HD video a lot. I've often wondered why manufacturers of DSLRs have not included such a feature.

In these times of impending recession and financial turmoil, I think Canon have positioned themselves well. This camera will sell like hot cakes.

Depends one one's criteria, doesn't it Ray? You want MPs and video, fine (IQ and High ISO quality to be seen). You want AF, responsiveness, shooting features (including properly implemented auto-ISO as you point out) and PROVEN High ISO quality, no.

We are living in interesting times at the moment and the one thing I can say is that noone can say who's Numero Uno at the moment (probably noone IMO)

See also the Galbraith article:

"A vignette control (Canon calls this "Peripheral Illumination Correction") that adjusts the amount of edge and corner brightening it applies to in-camera JPEGs based on the Canon lens attached. Canon has profiled the vignette characteristics of 82 lenses past and present (of about 125 Canon EF and EF-S lenses developed to date); the camera can store up to 40 such profiles, and the camera will come already loaded with 26."

This is the standard description of the 'PIC' function. Not necessarily applicable verbatim to the 5DII.

Look, the reason EF-S lenses have not been compatible with Canon's non-APS cameras has always been the fact that they intrude in the mirror box (as 1.3 and FF cameras require a larger mirror than APS). So, unless someone comes up with a reasonable explanation of how Canon have managed to overcome this limitation I will choose to believe that Canon US have screwed up on the info they have put on their site.

Yes, everything depends on one's own criteria, and I agree it's early days for definitive conclusions.

However, the 3 year wait for a 5D upgrade has been worth it. I'm a bit dismayed at incremental improvements in camera technology which encourage one to keep up with the Jones' and essentially waste money. I'm pleased my current 5D has had good use. It's been repaired once. I'm close to the 100,000 shutter activations. I'm ready for an upgrade, and here it comes. Just in time .

You could well be right. Could the references to "half mirror" in the write-ups have anything to do with this subject?

No.

If Canon had come up with a 20Mp camera with video and with IQ, AF, responsiveness, features and build comparable to the D700 at that price then I think that no-one would be hesitant to say they are the undisputed champs at the moment. But I believe they haven't. So it depends on one's criteria.

I don't think you realize that the US Canon site is full of mistakes.

They're obviously wrong, since the specs for the 5DII also state that there is a 1.6x crop factor with *EF* lenses, which is wrong, of course.

For those more concerned about owning a status symbol than taking a photograph, I guess that would be the most important consideration.

The problem is that Canon works a bit differently than Nikon.

While Nikon is willing to add "pro" features to a sub-$3,000 camera, Canon works a different way.

The "5D" series, whether in 2003, 2008, or 2018, has been introduced because of one reason: To *economically* put out a camera with a full-frame sensor with an attractive amount of megapixels, with outstanding image quality (or the best image quality, according to most people) and some basic features.

Weather sealing, Pro-AF, high-speed FPS? Maybe that's reserved for another camera coming soon.

Those who need it can only hope. Otherwise, for people who aren't picky, the 5D series = Win.

This is not wrong. EF-S lenses either have a 1.6x crop factor of they have unacceptable peripheral light fall off.

Huh?? That's a very convoluted way of thinking (but then, it's you Ray ) . Seriously, isn't it easier to think that Canon US have screwed up their 5DMkii announcement?

I suspect that if they had accomplished such an engineering feat, it would be included in the hype. I am also in the doubters camp.

And this is not wrong either:
5DII specs:

Canon EF lens mount (does not support EF-S lenses)
• No field of view crop (1.0x)

EF-S lenses project a smaller image circle than FF 35mm. There's no sudden cut-off, just severe vignetting, on full frame. Didn't you know that?

Ray, pls. stop being yourself for once