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sid_v
hey guys,

we've seen the work, now lets see those cams/hybrid-cams that help u get the work done. Just post some pics of your main workhorse, with its unique paint tears and/or scars, or any modifications u have done on it, or heck, even if its brand new.

heres my black beauty...rb67h20, a blend of the first generation of hardcore mechanics with state of the art electronics. Glad i chose this over the 1dsmark3. More happy after the 5d2 announcement.

adapter mod: the red circle in the third pic indicates the pin in the adapter plate that wakes the back when u half press the shutter release. This not only makes capture in a single click possible, but also there is no absolutely no shutter lag.
samuel_js
Cool thread.
Here's mine:







bradleygibson
Some random recent work...

The workhorse:


Some samples of the output... (oh, geez. Where could I go with this?? tongue.gif)
















sid_v
hey samuel, love ur setup. The 80 2.8 is a killer.....wish my 90mm was a 2.8 instead of 3.5.

hey brad, lovely images....the first one and the horse one are my favourite. Do u travel with the entire kit everywhere???

I guess all the rest are busy with the megapixel race, trying to justify a p60whatever over their p30s??
foto-z
For those who don't know what my (slightly rare) setup looks like, here it is:

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And an old official photo (with the 180mm lens I also have):

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EPd
My most ugly combo. The one that gives me the greatest close portrait results.

Click to view attachment
Leonardo Barreto
afd
Snook
QUOTE (foto-z @ Sep 26 2008, 06:59 PM)
For those who don't know what my (slightly rare) setup looks like, here it is:

Click to view attachment Click to view attachment Click to view attachment

And an old official photo (with the 180mm lens I also have):

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Damn that looks nice..
Just out of curosity how much does a Rollei and 2 lens cost more or less..
What's the sync on that Rollei with flash also?
Thanks
Snook
foto-z
QUOTE (Snook @ Sep 27 2008, 01:03 AM)
Just out of curosity how much does a Rollei and 2 lens cost more or less..


New or used?

QUOTE (Snook @ Sep 27 2008, 01:03 AM)
What's the sync on that Rollei with flash also?
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Either 1/1000 for PQS lenses or 1/500 for PQ lenses.
Snook
QUOTE (foto-z @ Sep 26 2008, 08:04 PM)
New or used?
Either 1/1000 for PQS lenses or 1/500 for PQ lenses.
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Is there a used market?
I hate to buy anything new...
I am looking for a high sync solution and that the Rollei is a classic. Very beautiful camera and the lens look amazing.
I know nothing about lens for the Rollei. Just know they are sharp.
I was just wondering what it would set me back to change platforms. I am using RZII and Mamiya at the moment. 1/400th is not that great and I really for some reason, maybe stupid, just do not like Hassleblad.. I know it is a good camera but something about it makes me think it is plasticy and not very sturdy.
Thanks for any information if you have any and want to let me know.
Hope no body get's upset if you post it here, if so you can private message me.
Thanks
Snook


PS. I am sure you know it but that is one beautiful camera and the lens are sick...:+}
Are they fast lens? could not see what f stop they are from your image.
rethmeier
Snook!
2/80 + 2/110 +2.8/180 !
Is that fast enough?
bradleygibson
QUOTE (sid_v @ Sep 26 2008, 01:49 PM)
hey samuel, love ur setup. The 80 2.8 is a killer.....wish my 90mm was a 2.8 instead of 3.5.

hey brad, lovely images....the first one and the horse one are my favourite. Do u travel with the entire kit everywhere???

I guess all the rest are busy with the megapixel race, trying to justify a p60whatever over their  p30s??
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Thank you, Sid.

I do sometimes travel with all the lenses + TC (particularly on a long trip without too much hiking where the opportunities will be unknown), but when I'm in the mountains or doing other strenuous work to get to the location, I usually select only two + TC. I had 'em all with me in Iceland when I shot the horses, though.

Graham, is that a Zeiss 50 FLE I see in the background? Any chance you could send me a shot at infinity taken with it?

-Brad
foto-z
QUOTE (Snook @ Sep 27 2008, 01:15 AM)
Is there a used market?


You can certainly get a 6008AF with an 80mm and 150mm quite readily. Some other lenses can take longer to find.

There's quite a lot of Rollei gear in the LL 'for sale' forum right now, including at least 7 lenses.

Please not this combo is high on quality, but the lack of digital interface means you have to use sync cable. There is no EXIF available, and you need to set the ISO manually on both the camera and the back. This is probably no different to the RZ, but I have no experience of that.

QUOTE (Snook @ Sep 27 2008, 01:15 AM)
Are they fast lens? could not see what f stop they are from your image.
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One of the reasons I chose Rollei to begin with was the fastest leaf shutter lenses. For example, there's a 50mm f2.8, 80mm f2, 110mm f2 and 180mm f2.8. Much faster than Mamiya RZ, right?
foto-z
QUOTE (bradleygibson @ Sep 27 2008, 05:40 AM)
Graham, is that a Zeiss 50 FLE I see in the background?  Any chance you could send me a shot at infinity taken with it?
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Unfortunately I don't own the 50mm - I have the 40mm instead which is a great lens.
bradleygibson
QUOTE (foto-z @ Sep 27 2008, 04:12 AM)
Unfortunately I don't own the 50mm - I have the 40mm instead which is a great lens.
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Oh the lens IS a Zeiss Distagon 50/4 FLE, but it's not yours--I thought the last photo you posted was of your kit as well... My bad!

-Brad
marcwilson
QUOTE (Leonardo Barreto @ Sep 27 2008, 01:00 AM)
afd
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Hi Leonardo,
Slightly off topic here but...
I see you shoot with an L bracket.
I do same but to shoot that way whilst tethered need a right angle usb cable...have you found one or do you not shoot tethered with that set up?

Thanks.

Marc
Snook
QUOTE (marcwilson @ Sep 27 2008, 10:24 AM)
Hi Leonardo,
Slightly off topic here but...
I see you shoot with an L bracket.
I do same but to shoot that way whilst tethered need a right angle usb cable...have you found one or do you not shoot tethered with that set up?

Thanks.

Marc
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Marc, I have the same set-up and shoot tethered fine. what are you shooting that is USB????
I shoot with Phase and the firewire goes in the back of the back.
Can you be more specific? I never even new there was anything else but firewire for tethering MFDB?

Snook
marcwilson
QUOTE (Snook @ Sep 27 2008, 03:32 PM)
Marc, I have the same set-up and shoot tethered fine. what are you shooting that is USB????
I shoot with Phase and the firewire goes in the back of the back.
Can you be more specific? I never even new there was anything else but firewire for tethering MFDB?

Snook
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um..I'm currently shooting with a 5d but try to keep that quiet round here!! smile.gif

to get the same flexibility as I do from my 35mm kit I'd realistically need least crop mfdb with both slr and shift camera outfits and right now that is not possible for me..soon though I hope as I'm used to large format quality from my fine art and would dearly love the same very high quality for my commercial shooting.

(have just found good source of right angle cables though so I'm ok now..)
Snook
QUOTE (marcwilson @ Sep 27 2008, 10:43 AM)
um..I'm currently shooting with a 5d but try to keep that quiet round here!! smile.gif

to get the same flexibility as I do from my 35mm kit I'd realistically need least crop mfdb with both slr and shift camera outfits and right now that is not possible for me..soon though I hope as I'm used to large format quality from my fine art and would dearly love the same very high quality for my commercial shooting.

(have just found good source of right angle cables though so I'm ok now..)
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Did you miss post?? Leonardo picture is of a Mamiya 645 not 5D?

Snook
Leonardo Barreto
mine is afd-PhaseOne P25 that does not have USB but FireWire and connects in the back so there is no problem when rotating the camera. The bracket was good when shooting different paintings because the axis of the lens remains the same saving time adjusting the tripod and tripod head. Also the center of gravity of the camera remains on top of tripod and tripod head. I recommend the Arca Swiss adapter to hold the bracket that has a safety mechanism...

QUOTE (marcwilson @ Sep 27 2008, 10:24 AM)
Hi Leonardo,
Slightly off topic here but...
I see you shoot with an L bracket.
I do same but to shoot that way whilst tethered need a right angle usb cable...have you found one or do you not shoot tethered with that set up?

Thanks.

Marc
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marcwilson
..yes snook, I know Leonardo shoots afd from post, but was not sure how connection worked with his back, so thought I'd ask anyway as did also wonder how the heavier mf set fared on the L plates.

Thanks for comments Leonardo, good to know L plates work as well on heavier mf/db set up.

anyway, sorry to have taken this post off topic.

Cheers.
simplify
here is my p45+ the day I received it about a year ago. I now use it on Mamiya, because my 4x5 could not focus accurately enough.
I wish I had samuel's hassy set up. I may have to get a back switch.
Click to view attachment
gwhitf
QUOTE (simplify @ Sep 27 2008, 02:39 PM)
here is my p45+ the day I received it about a year ago.  I now use it on Mamiya, because my 4x5 could not focus accurately enough. 
I wish I had samuel's hassy set up.  I may have to get a back switch.
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What is the goal of this? Tilts and shifts? Why go to this trouble, over say, Hassie or Contax or Mamiya?
simplify
Yes of course, it is for tilts and shifts, as well as the capabilities of the stitching back, not to mention the superior sharpness of the Schnieder D lenses.
QUOTE (gwhitf @ Sep 27 2008, 12:45 PM)
What is the goal of this? Tilts and shifts? Why go to this trouble, over say, Hassie or Contax or Mamiya?
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bcooter
QUOTE (simplify @ Sep 27 2008, 04:29 PM)
Yes of course,  it is for tilts and shifts, as well as the capabilities of the stitching back, not to mention the superior sharpness of the Schnieder D lenses.
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i know this very good photographer that stitches. most everything and he shots with the canon eos mark III and the canons tilt shift lens.

http://tinyurl.com/4wwwlg

he hand holds and stitches moving people together in the photograph.

it's like magic that he can do this.

but he does do this.
vantomas
[quote=samuel_js,Sep 25 2008, 10:20 PM]
Cool thread.
Here's mine:



hi samuel, i guess this is a phase 1 back. what is your crop factor? and is the sensor landscape-format or portrait-format? looks like a very nice set-up.

best thomas
samuel_js
[quote=vantomas,Sep 28 2008, 10:53 AM]
[quote=samuel_js,Sep 25 2008, 10:20 PM]
Cool thread.
Here's mine:



hi samuel, i guess this is a phase 1 back. what is your crop factor? and is the sensor landscape-format or portrait-format? looks like a very nice set-up.

best thomas
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Hi thomas,
this is a P20 so the sensor is squared. The crop factor is 1,5. No very wide but stitching works when needed.

/Samuel
James R Russell
HarperPhotos
Gidday,

This is my latest beast.

I had a engineer make a adapter plate using a old Mamiya extension tube so I could mount my Mamiya 645AFDII on to a Horseman VCC view camera adapter.

Cheers

Simon
kaelaria
For the love...
EricWHiss
QUOTE (EPd @ Sep 26 2008, 05:46 PM)
My most ugly combo. The one that gives me the greatest close portrait results.

Click to view attachment
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Hi EPd,
What's the matte box you have on the 150 apo? I use more or less this combo but can't figure out what you have there and how you've connected it to the lens (black fabric covering the connection?)
Thanks,
Eric
tom_l
2 ugly ones

-503cw with p25 in verical position
-Flexicam with sliding back and P25


Tom-
EPd
QUOTE (EricWHiss @ Sep 29 2008, 09:02 AM)
Hi EPd,
What's the matte box you have on the 150 apo?  I use more or less this combo but can't figure out what you have there and how you've connected it to the lens (black fabric covering the connection?)
Thanks,
Eric
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It's a bit of a Frankenshade: stepping ring and filter holder are Sinar, then there is a Hi-Tech front ring that takes the Hasselblad compendium with square mask. I made an elasticated velvet wrapper that closes with Velcro. This way it keeps stray light out of the filter openings, while leaving full ability to move filters up and down (mostly grads of course). Works very comfortable. I have never seen a better solution so far.

Click to view attachment
BJNY
QUOTE (tom_l @ Sep 29 2008, 03:20 AM)
-Flexicam with sliding back and P25


Tom,

Has the Flexicam been serving you well / holding up?
witz
rarely use this anymore.... the 1ds3 is just an easier and quicker workflow ( I tend to shoot 1000's of frames on a 1 day shoot )..... and the MBP's won't drive the fireiwire without a power booster. but the fcm2000/110 f2, 50 f2.8/H20 has given me over 20,000 fantastic captures.

Raphael
QUOTE (witz @ Sep 29 2008, 08:51 AM)
rarely use this anymore.... the 1ds3 is just an easier and quicker workflow ( I tend to shoot 1000's of frames on a 1 day shoot )..... and the MBP's won't drive the fireiwire without a power booster. but the fcm2000/110 f2, 50 f2.8/H20 has given me over 20,000 fantastic captures.


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Is this an H20 also or an H25?
tom_l
QUOTE (BJNY @ Sep 29 2008, 10:23 AM)
Tom,

Has the Flexicam been serving you well / holding up?
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Thank you, yes.
The Zeiss lenses via adapter are ok, I now got a 100mm Digitar and it's really great, very sharp.
I use the Rmfx viewfinder from Hasselblad in the studio, easy working when you have strobes. the Silvestri viewer "Easy bellow" isn't that good. The groundglass could be better too on location, I'm trying to contact B.Maxwell for an offer.
I don't regret selling 2 old Sinars and the Flexbody. It's an allround toy, a very good one, of course there a specialized cameras for architecture-only people and more sophisticated view cameras for studio guys.
Still waiting for a 35mm, heard about problems when stitching with wide angle lenses. But I'm not a stitching guy anyway.

Tom
witz
QUOTE (Raphael @ Sep 29 2008, 09:26 AM)
Is this an H20 also or an H25?
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H20
paulmoorestudio
the viewcamera part of my rollei workhorse..with sinar/foba matte boxClick to view attachment
photo570
Click to view attachmentFuji GX680III with Leaf Cantare XY. cool.gif

Great little product shot set up. Just keeps going and going.
Leonardo Barreto
Not gear but my new studio here in La Paz... with the light bank that I just built from scratch. That is 2m tall (6.56 feet) and checked it with my spot flash meter that it has absolute even trow. The design has same principle as Elinchrom with the head pointing back in to the center of the bank (like a huge umbrella) with no reflector...

I will have my firs sitting tomorrow and will probably post some images here (I said probably in case the shoot crashes and burns ... no postings
Khun_K
QUOTE (sid_v @ Sep 26 2008, 02:55 AM)
hey guys,

we've seen the work, now lets see those cams/hybrid-cams that help u get the work done. Just post some pics of your main workhorse, with its unique paint tears and/or scars, or any modifications u have done on it, or heck, even if its brand new.

heres my black beauty...rb67h20, a blend of the first generation of hardcore mechanics with state of the art electronics. Glad i chose this over the 1dsmark3. More happy after the 5d2 announcement.

adapter mod: the red circle in the third pic indicates the pin in the adapter plate that wakes the back when u half press the shutter release. This not only makes capture in a single click possible, but also there is no absolutely no shutter lag.
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I shot quite a few medium format systems, but the longest history and mileage goes to Contax 645 and Phase backs, and lenses (includes come Hasselblad CF/FE lenses thru MAM-1), and Alpa 12.
paul_jones
QUOTE (Khun_K @ Oct 3 2008, 04:58 PM)
I shot quite a few medium format systems, but the longest history and mileage goes to Contax 645 and Phase backs, and lenses (includes come Hasselblad CF/FE lenses thru MAM-1), and Alpa 12.
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you get my vote on the coolest looking collection of gear!
Jonathan H
QUOTE (Khun_K @ Oct 2 2008, 11:58 PM)
I shot quite a few medium format systems, but the longest history and mileage goes to Contax 645 and Phase backs, and lenses (includes come Hasselblad CF/FE lenses thru MAM-1), and Alpa 12.
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Wow.

Just wow. Amazing.

Khun - is photography your profession?
Khun_K
QUOTE (Jonathan H @ Oct 3 2008, 02:32 PM)
Wow.

Just wow.  Amazing.

Khun - is photography your profession?
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1/2 photography and 1/2 industrial design, hope this helps. Often the equipment does not necessary represent the quality of picture.
Conner999
Excuse me while I wipe the drool off my keyboard....NICE kit.
bradleygibson
QUOTE (Khun_K @ Oct 3 2008, 05:55 AM)
1/2 photography and 1/2 industrial design, hope this helps.  Often the equipment does not necessary represent the quality of picture.
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My kingdom for those teles!!
H1/A75 Guy
QUOTE (photo570 @ Sep 30 2008, 11:08 PM)
Fuji GX680III with Leaf Cantare XY. cool.gif

Great little product shot set up. Just keeps going and going.
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Does your Leaf Contare have Verto?

David
amsp
QUOTE (Khun_K @ Oct 3 2008, 05:58 AM)
I shot quite a few medium format systems, but the longest history and mileage goes to Contax 645 and Phase backs, and lenses (includes come Hasselblad CF/FE lenses thru MAM-1), and Alpa 12.
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I love the Contax, it's in my view the best looking 645 out there. When i was choosing camera I went with Mamiya instead, but only because the Contax was discontinued. It's a shame really, a Contax 645 Mk2 would have been amazing to see.
Khun_K
QUOTE (amsp @ Oct 3 2008, 10:28 PM) *
I love the Contax, it's in my view the best looking 645 out there. When i was choosing camera I went with Mamiya instead, but only because the Contax was discontinued. It's a shame really, a Contax 645 Mk2 would have been amazing to see.

Frankly, I really don't know what Contax Mk2 needs to be? except may be faster sync, it is as good as I need. We just need it to be reintroduced, supported. I hope by the time Zeiss finally got their contract with Kyocera ended, there will be some magic to resurrect the camera?
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