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EricM
Hi all,

I have added 18 new Road Tar pix on my website, in "Galleries -- B&W", "Road Tar II."

Less cliched than Antelope Canyon or Half Dome!

-Eric

kikashi
QUOTE (EricM @ Sep 3 2009, 05:48 PM) *
Hi all,

I have added 18 new Road Tar pix on my website, in "Galleries -- B&W", "Road Tar II."

Less cliched than Antelope Canyon or Half Dome!

-Eric

Art, shmart. They're interesting, quirky, pleasing images to look at. Well spotted!

Jeremy
Justan
Innovative to portray road tar & related as something between petroglyphs (or petrolglyphs) and calligraphy. Nicely done!
russell a
Eric: First of all, your tar images are very well chosen and a delight to the eye. Are you the first (reference to your comment on the cliche thread) or only one to choose this as subject matter? No, of course not. We have to accept that the photographic eye is drawn to the same elements of visual interest; whatever one sees - in shadow patterns, reflections, etc. etc. - is the same that draws the attention of other optical hunters. I, too, have done a series of sewer covers years ago and years before that. Among names artists, Aaron Siskind was inclined to follow along asphalt roads for this very subject, although for his published work, he preferred flat planes parallel with the film plane. I prefer your approach of photographing them as they appear to us in the world. I frankly tire of Siskind's emulation of abstract expressionist paintings - even understanding that he was very close to that community. The occasional drain lends nice spice/counterpoint to the "zen brush strokes". You have done this sub-genre proud.
EricM
Thanks Jeremy, Justan and Russell for your kind remarks.

@Russell: I'll readily admit to having been influenced both by Siskind and by Minor White, who also has some "pavement" photos. I don't recall any offhand by either Adams or Weston.
I'd love to see your sewer covers. Are any of them online?

Eric
BlasR
QUOTE (EricM @ Sep 3 2009, 12:48 PM) *
Hi all,

I have added 18 new Road Tar pix on my website, in "Galleries -- B&W", "Road Tar II."

Less cliched than Antelope Canyon or Half Dome!

-Eric



Ok, lets do that. but here is one from Antelope canyon.

Blas
EricM
QUOTE (BlasR @ Sep 7 2009, 02:33 PM) *
Ok, lets do that. but here is one from Antelope canyon.

Blas


I like that! It's the first BW I've seen from Antelope, and the composition is also not one of the usual hackneyed ones.


So now can you do something with Half Dome that nobody else has done?




Eric

kikashi
QUOTE (EricM @ Sep 7 2009, 10:07 PM) *
I like that! It's the first BW I've seen from Antelope, and the composition is also not one of the usual hackneyed ones.

Eric,

See this thread from a couple of years ago, and in particular post #3!

We're all getting old.

Jeremy
Christian Miersch
Eric, let me just say, I liked these images right from the point I started posting in User Critiques. Checked your icon and your website back then. They are wonderful.
BlasR
QUOTE (kikashi @ Sep 8 2009, 04:11 AM) *
Eric,

See this thread from a couple of years ago, and in particular post #3!

We're all getting old.

Jeremy

2007 it's to old rolleyes.gif

Blas
EricM
QUOTE (kikashi @ Sep 8 2009, 04:11 AM) *
Eric,

See this thread from a couple of years ago, and in particular post #3!

We're all getting old.

Jeremy

I see what you mean, Jeremy. Those are quite nice, too. But they were posted way back in 2007, and my memory these days only goes back a couple of weeks!

These days i can't even remember the formula I used to use for the emulsion on my 16x20" wet plates back in 1850 or so.   blink.gif


Eric

P.S. I sent you a personal message, Jeremy.

EricM
QUOTE (Christian Miersch @ Sep 8 2009, 08:01 AM) *
Eric, let me just say, I liked these images right from the point I started posting in User Critiques. Checked your icon and your website back then. They are wonderful.


Thanks for the kind comments, Christian. 


I have to admit that Russell A is correct that Siskind beat me to this kind of subject matter, and Minor White did too. But I have a great deal of fun with it.

Eric

EricM
QUOTE (BlasR @ Sep 8 2009, 08:41 AM) *
2007 it's to old rolleyes.gif

Blas


And if I were as young as you, Blas, maybe I could remember 2007.   tongue.gif
Chris_T
QUOTE (EricM @ Sep 8 2009, 03:22 PM) *
...my memory these days only goes back a couple of weeks!


From my experience, those who suffer memory loss due to aging only lose their short term memory. Forgetting things that happened weeks ago is normal, making you a youngster. Now, what was I saying?

Yes, your tar work do remind me of calligraphy. Have you considered creating a sequence of tars that strongly resemble alphabets (or characters of some language), which can form meaningful words or verses? The chosen words and verses can convey some "meaning", which of course is the opposite of creating abstracts. Titling the sequence with the words or verses would also be interesting. Without any hints from you, only the most observant will be able to get it.

It's been quite awhile since I last visited your site. Where did that textured background come from? tongue.gif
EricM
QUOTE (Chris_T @ Sep 8 2009, 01:21 PM) *
From my experience, those who suffer memory loss due to aging only lose their short term memory. Forgetting things that happened weeks ago is normal, making you a youngster. Now, what was I saying?


Yes, I knew that, but I forgot.


QUOTE
Yes, your tar work do remind me of calligraphy. Have you considered creating a sequence of tars that strongly resemble alphabets (or characters of some language), which can form meaningful words or verses? The chosen words and verses can convey some "meaning", which of course is the opposite of creating abstracts. Titling the sequence with the words or verses would also be interesting. Without any hints from you, only the most observant will be able to get it.


That sounds like quite a complex undertaking. I have thought of trying to create an "abecedaria" which would be a sequence of 26 road tar images each looking like a letter of the English alphabet (I'm not ready to take on Kanji yet). When I get part way there, I may call on you to help me put verses to the letters (from bad to verse?).


QUOTE
It's been quite awhile since I last visited your site. Where did that textured background come from? tongue.gif


I got tired of the plain white background and googled some backgrounds until I found a few that seemed sufficiently neutral to put behind the photos.


Eric
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